first time was when there was a person up there that challenged the president or then senator obama's religion and insin waited he was a muslim and senator mccain corrected that person. senator mccain -- >> i remember that. >> -- is very consistent in trying to be a leader and trying to make sure all the facts are just sure that facts are just that, the facts. >> you have seen your share of town hauls. what are they like? how tough are they usually? if they are tough is it because the people who attend them have passion to take time out of their busy days to look at the issues and get feedback. >> i agree with robert again. this is two times in a row. the answer to your question and it's a very good question because the people who come to town hall meetings are not representative of your constituents. they are overly passionate about issues. that may not be the case. on immigration i believe mccain's constituents as a whole come to his position. town hall meetings are good. you go to a town hall meeting knowing you are going to get a lot of feedback and a lot of it is going to be negative. you